Meditation April 7, 2011

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Meditation April 7, 2011

Postby Warmsoul/Jeanie13 » Wed Apr 06, 2011 3:52 pm

CONTRARY WAYS

What we are today comes from our thoughts of yesterday, and our present thoughts build our life of tomorrow: our life is the creation of our mind.

- If a man speaks or acts with an impure mind, suffering will follow him as the wheel of the cart follows the beast that draws the cart.

- If a man speaks or acts with a pure mind, joy follows him as his own shadow.

Many do not know that we are here in this world to live in harmony. Those who know this do not fight against each other.

If a man speaks many holy words but he speaks and does not, this thoughtless man cannot enjoy the life of holiness: he is like a cowherd who counts the cows of his master.

Whereas if a man speaks but a few holy words and yet he lives the life of those words, free from passion and hate and illusion - with right vision and a mind free, craving for nothing both now and hereafter - the life of this man is a life of holiness.
--The Dhammapada

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Postby TackingIntoTheWind » Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:59 am

Very wise words as always, (((( Warmie ))))! :)
Although, I find them very hard to put into practice sometimes, which leaves me feeling like " the bad guy ", even when I'm sure that I'm not. :? :(
I genuinely feel that I'm a person who tries to live by the open hand rather than the closed fist. I like to meet people half-way, live and let live, other people have the same rights as you do, looking for a win/win solution for everyone, blah blah, woof woof...
But, the flaw in that idea is that people have to be willing to meet you half-way. I may be willing to split the proverbial disputed-ownership cake 50/50 with someone else, but that's hard to do if they've already decided that they're taking all of it for themselves, with no better claim to ownership of the whole cake than I have.
For, ( Rather surreal! :? :o ) example, I just had a rather weird experience in a cafe where I went for lunch. I'd had lunch and slipped into the back to use the " rest-room ", ( As our American cousins would call it... :wink: ). And that is when things started getting surreal... :o Suddenly, there was quite a loud knocking on the cubicle door. :o :?

" Yes? ", I replied. ( On the off-chance that the cafe had caught fire, or aliens had landed, or something. Although, like most people when I'm " taking a break ", I DO NOT expect people to knock the door when it's obviously occupied! :? :o . )

A while later there's another burst of knocking on the door. And, a short time later I emerge from the cubicle to meet a man who announces that I was taking too long, was being selfish and tells me that I should read the Bible...( Obviously, I would readily concede that reading the Bible IS a good thing. And I have in fact read all of the New Testament and a part of the Old Testament, until the first few chapters of Leviticus, when I have to admit that I got rather bogged-down on the descriptions of the biblical measurements in use and ground to a halt. For which hopefully God, ( If there is a God. ),will forgive me, along with a few other things... :oops: :cry: But, I have to confess that I am not truthfully aware of anything in the Bible that would allow a total strange to criticise my use of the the customer toilet in a cafe! )
Feeling a little taking aback by this, ( Rather strange behaviour I'd have to say.), I resorted to telling him to...Er..." Go away and leave me alone ", ( I've cleaned that up a bit... :oops: ), at a steadily-rising volume and with a certain...Er..." imagery ".
A relatively trivial example perhaps, but, how do you meet someone half-way, how do you treat them courteously, when they're " in your face " like that? I feel there should be a way. But, sometimes when you're " pushed ", can you ALWAYS avoid " pushing " back? :? And, indeed should you?
Admittedly, yelling at people isn't an approach to social interaction that I'm comfortable with! :cry: The man in question was walking with a stick and I can understand that he would have prefered to find the cubicle unoccupied. But, I was not " in his way ", I had as much right to use " the facilities " as he did. So, I simply wasn't about to accept being criticised or called selfish for doing so. But, I still feel that I should have found a better way to respond other than telling him " to take a long walk off a short pier..." ( As, we say in this part of the world. )

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Postby Warmsoul/Jeanie13 » Thu Apr 07, 2011 3:57 pm

(((((((((((( TackingIntoTheWind )))))))))))))

Can't say I would not have react in the same manner. After those area's are for the public. The Bible does say, 'do unto others', not meaning you, but him. No matter the situation, he should have been kind and wait his turn.

You have punished yourself enough. You are a kind person and let's face it, we all have that 'moment' that we simply react.

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Postby TackingIntoTheWind » Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:50 am

Thanks (((( Warmie ))))! :D
I'd certainly like to think of myself as a kind person. Although, some of the people who've had to listen to my longer and older jokes might diasagree with you...! :roll: :wink:

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Postby shatteredhopes » Fri Apr 08, 2011 12:52 pm

Oh ((((((Tacking)))))))) I agree with ((((((((Warmie)))))))) you are a very kind, good person from everything I have seen. That man is the one who should read his bible and learn patience is a virtue and how to be kind.

I too have trouble with that sort of thing, when to stand up for myself or when to just let it roll off my back and take the high road. As a survivor of abuse, I am tempted to stand up for myself, but sometimes cower in hurt and do nothing. Low self-esteem anyone?

Anyway so glad to see you still posting. How are you doing? Miss old friends from the site who no longer post.

Wishing you both light and peace in your day.

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Postby Warmsoul/Jeanie13 » Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:57 pm

((((((((((( TackingIntoTheWind )))))))))))))

You send them my way and I will sort them out quickly on you. One of the kindest, caring, human, and you always manage to give me reason to laugh and smile.

I get that way when someone does wrong to a family member. I became, "that person" the other day. Went my sister to a doctor. The doctor was suggesting more pain then fix her problem. Not fix the problem, now. I was polite and think it shocked him that I knew what I was talking about.

We do react, sometimes we can't always control it, but when another is that rude, they deserve it. All I can say for you is, "WTG", proud of you. :wink:

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Postby TackingIntoTheWind » Sat Apr 09, 2011 9:56 am

Thanks SOOO much (((( shatteredhopes )))) (((( Warmie ))))!!!! :D
I've been feeling low recently, so the support and kind words are VERY much appreciated!!!! :D
I'm doing OK, (((( shatteredhopes )))), although I've been feeling rather low recently. Partly because I seem to be spending a lot of time and energy and " emotional resources " on what feels like " point defence " recently, and partly because I'm feeling physically a bit " under the weather ". We've been told that another 10,000 jobs are going to be cut from our government department by 2015. So, the " High Command " are now frantically trying to think of ways to do more work, to a higher standard, with far less people. As part of this, we my office is currently " hosting " two managers sent to us as " time and motion " " experts ". As far as I can tell, their job is to push us all into higher productivity, without looking as if they're trying to push us into higher productivity... :roll:
As the two managers in question seem to have quite little experience of what we actually do, this has so far generated little more than a lot of meaningless statistics, and a lot of sarcastic comments about these two managers. ( Comments along the lines of " What do they do all day? "/" They're being paid a manager's wage for this?! " Hey! We're Welsh in our office. We can be " barrack-room lawyers " with the best of them! :wink: )
Although, I'm finding this hard-going personally. In real-life as our American " cousins " so wisely say: " You can only get so much bang for your buck. " My employers may fantasise about ever increasing productivity, to a higher and higher standard with ever less staff. But, at the end of the day, that's all it is, a fantasy. Eventually, no matter what " time and motion " stunts they pull, eventually, inevitably, they hit the same point of diminishing returns. So, in practice it feels, at least to me as if I'm working in a slightly pschologically unhealthy environment. My empoyers want the impossible, and can therefore never be satisfied. And, given that what they want is impossible, the staff can never live up to their expectations. Which, at least for me, weakens my self-esteem, and makes it harder for me to bludgeon my feelings of worthless back into " the shadows. "
I'm also been feeling a bit " anaemic " recently. Although, in reality I suspect that the true cause of what feel like " anaemic " symptoms, is, in fact, the exact opposite. Too much iron rather than too little. I suspect that the inherited genetic blood disorder, Genetic Haemachromatosis, that I inherited from my parents, might be making itself felt again. ( My parents were accomplished dancers, with an unerring sense of direction. Did they pass either of those traits to me? No...I got GH, short-sight, a receding hair-line and ENGLISH blood!!!! :shock: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: My Father was born in England. But, it wasn't his fault! His Mother was in England when she gave birth...But, even so, we try not to talk about it... :wink: )
Still, I'm going to see my doctor in a week's time. So, I may just need a venesection treatment slightly earlier than planned. ( In which case all I'll have to worry about is dangerous women, quite literally draining away part of my life-blood! :shock: :wink: )

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Postby jj » Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:12 am

This is so true. I think you've just got to try and live your life as righteously as you can free from hate and jealousy and all the negativities. I think anger and pain that people inflict on others stems from fear, and you've just got to let go of the fear and embrace love. More than just giving love tho, be love, embody it in everything that you do.. If you go out with purely good intentions "with right vision and a mind free", then yea, your life will be a life of holiness. (this is my first post on the forum, hope i made sense 8) )

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Postby TackingIntoTheWind » Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:44 am

Hi (((( jj )))), welcome to the forum! :)
I'd agree with you to a very great extent. I am very much a believer in approaching other people with " the open hand rather than the closed fist. " However, I also feel that a certain caution is in order. However, pure my intentions might be, I also need to take other people's intentions into account. I have found the vast majority of people I've met to be good and kind, or at least people that I could get along with. But, I've also learned how much harm can be done by people who, even if they don't intend harm, are so intent on their own concerns and aims that they almost don't seem to be able to see beyond those concerns and aims. Concerns and aims, to which my own welfare may be incidental, or even irrelevant.
I guess I'm learning to strike a balance between being too trusting, too open, and not being trusting and open enough. Learning how to be a friend to people I haven't met yet, but not to be seen as an " easy mark. "


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