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TackingIntoTheWind
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Postby TackingIntoTheWind » Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:49 pm

Thanks sooooooo much (((( shattered hopes & Mich ))))!!!! :D
To tell the truth I do feel rather inhibited about starting threads of my own. So many other people on this site have far worse, or at least more immediate problems than me, I don't want to sound self-indulgent, I had quite a " middle-class, stiff-upper-lip British " upbringing, ( You know the type of thing...: " I say, Carruthers, we're being charged by 42,000 enemy troops, there's just the two of us, and we've run out of bullets. This could be a bit sticky, what? " ), and as a man, talking about my own feelings is still something I'm learning to do, anyway! :wink:
( And, to be honest, sounding insightful about other people's problems can be easier than adressing your own problems, at least I suspect that's true of me! :oops: :roll: )
But, I'm quite willing to talk about myself. ( You're not driving or operating heavy machinery I hope, my longer posts can be rather sleep-inducing I suspect! :)
I've pretty much much recovered from my head injury apart from still tiring slightly more easily than usual, and my head still aches sometimes, particularly in very cold weather. But, my GP said that I might feel tired and headachy for a while after I went back to work. By the Grace of God I seem not to have done myself any permanent damage, and now it's just a question of waiting for the bone to knit completely.
I could perhaps have done with another week off work, in an ideal world, But, I've had so much sick leave in the last year I'd used up all of my fully paid sick leave, so while I was off work with my head injury I went on to half-paid sick leave, so I did go back to work as soon as my GP said that I could. ( Although, even so, my salary at the end of last month was quite a bit less than usual, and with a strike and an electricity bill this month, March and April are going to be financially " interesting " :roll: : Still, it's better to be poor but honest! I wonder is Cosmopolitan would be interesting in me as a paid cover model... :o )
Anyway....the strike at work was Monday and yesterday, fortunately, I'd already booked Monday off on leave, so I'll lose one day's pay, rather than two! :)
As for my depression, I feel that that's crept back a little, perhaps due to my head injury, perhaps due to a slightly strained atmosphere at work between union members who went on strike and union members who didn't. That seem to be the way my depression and anxiety are, like wild animals being kept at bay by a fire. Something will go wrong, and the fire of my good spirits will ebb, and they'll edge close. I'll concentrate on lifting my mood, see friends, take care of myself physically, and the fire of my good spirits will strengthen, and they'll slink away.
But, I have started just scrawling some ideas for a story in a notebook, when I'm on the bus. And it's surprising how much better that this makes me feel.
Oops, closing time in the library!
Be well (((( Both )))), take care of yourselves! I'm so appreciative of all the support from you both and (((( All )))) on this site!!!!

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Postby shatteredhopes » Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:11 pm

(((((((((Tacking)))))))) I am glad you have pretty much recooperated from your injury, sorry to hear you still have the lingering fatigue and sometimes headaches and hope that goes away soon enough.

I am so proud of/for you for working out story ideas! I think you would make a great writer and hope you will include your trademark sense of humor! I have a "Writer's Market" book for where to sell or contests to enter and agents and such. When money isn't so tight, perhaps you could look to see if there is something like that at your nearest bookstore for your country's market, or something you could check out at the library? Also when you finish something, tell me what genre/general info about it and I will look in mine for possible places to publish it for you if you want. You may also want to check out Helium on the net...it is a writer's market and although the creative writing is seperate from non-fiction, it is a good way to publish on line and get your pieces rated by other writers, maybe get some helpful feedback...when you are ready! (I have heard people often get agents and publishers interested from their posts there, although hasn't happened to me!)

I know what that is like where the slightest or just anything goes wrong sends the depression and anxiety into full force...that's why I admire you so much for maintaining a job, which can be at times like pouring gas on a fire I am sure. But you are doing it and supporting yourself! And you are a trooper for continuing to do the best you can!

I am sorry you are going to have some tight financial months...I know how miserable it is when money is overly stretched and how that can affect your emotional state...at least when I have a little extra money I can go to the Goodwill and buy a used book or old movie or get a cup of gourmet coffee and decent food to comfort me and perk me up, when I don't, I do without essentials like toilet paper and light bulbs sometimes or eat turkey bologna sandwiches for every meal and it really makes me more depressed. Is there anyone from your family who could help you out a bit or a charity or a special fund at work for emergency loans? I so wish I could help you :( you have been through a hard time with your injury and now struggling with the increased depression and financial distress...but still in the face of all that, you are working, you are maintaining your humor, fighting to have a positive outlook, and daring to pursue a dream of yours....WOW! That's impressive and inspiring for me...so I will try a little harder too to get back to working on my novel and go back to searching the net for work I can do from home. See, even when you share about yourself, you are helping others with your inspiring example! You are one of a kind and I am proud to have you for a friend.

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Postby TackingIntoTheWind » Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:49 am

Thanks very much for your very kind post!!!! :D
I once read a quote, by Elie Wiesel I think: " Hope, like despair can only be given by one human being to another. " I find that I can tell myself something and it helps me, but having someone else reinforce what I'm telling myself really helps! :wink:
So far, I'm just jotting ideas in a notebook, but when the time comes, I know the book that you mean. In fact, I've seen it on sale in bookshops in my area. But, I've never really looked at it. So, it's encouraging that you've found it useful. And, you thinking that I would make a great writer really helps, as my self-esteem is still very much a work in progress! :(
I hadn't heard of Helium, so thanks for that suggestion. I have to admit that I'm not that " net-savvy ". In fact I've only gotten an e-mail address and started to use the 'net since I discovered this site, and wanted to participate in it.
It's really helpful too to be reminded of the positive aspects of my life. I am getting my physical and mental/emotional health gradually back on track, and even though the next month or so might be a bit tight financially, By the Grace of God, I'll muddle through, I have before. ( No male-modelling offers from Cosmopolitan though.... :o :lol: )
And, it helps to be sharing thoughts and feelings with others who are in the same boat, as it were...Also, the idea that by sharing thoughts and feelings, I can not only gain support from others, but also encourage you and others in return, is just wayyyyyyyy cool isn't it?! :D
In fact, there's only one thing that worries me.....A colleague of mine at work had heard an account of my accident that described me being taken into a massage-parlour to recover. It was a tanning-parlour!!!! I've never been inside a massage parlour in my life!!!! I hope this misconception isn't widely circulated at work. I have my reputation for virtue and clean-living to think of!!!! :oops: :lol:

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Postby shatteredhopes » Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:47 pm

(((((((((((((Tacking)))))))))))))) you never know, the massage parlor story might gain some traction with the ladies in your office! Then, you can get them to sign a petition to put you on the cover of Cosmo! (Men's magazines aren't calling me either, do you think its because we are in our 40s that the phone isn't ringing off the hook with high-paying modeling offers? Should we file suit for age discrimination?) :)

Seriously, though, it is way cool that when we share others can get inspiration or identify with pain/emotions in a way that helps us open up and know we are not alone...and I am so glad you are posting a bit more about yourself as we want to be here for you as you always are for us.

I am glad even though it will be tight you feel you'll be okay financially. As much as I complain about my finances, I have food, a roof over my head, heat and hot water, an oven to cook with (a former friend didn't have one), a refrigerator (a friend used to just have a cooler and have to buy ice every day), my medicine...I survive and even sometimes can buy myself a treat or two...so I its not as bad as I sometimes THINK or FEEL it is. I just remember what it was like to be working and buy whatever I wanted. Anxious to get back to work, but then of course, I will have the fear of losing my job, worry about absenteeism costing me salary, etc.! There's no easy way for depressives like us, is there?

So be proud of me, you inspired me and I jotted down some notes and ideas for my novel last night, even though depressed...I can't keep waiting to feel better before I do things...it may work the other way around, I have to do then I will start to feel better...

So proud of you for keeping up with jotting down ideas for stories! You really are a trooper and should be proud of yourself for all the progress you have made and are making. If you are like me, you look at how far you have to go rather than sitting down and really looking at all the progress, strides you have made...but you are setting a good example for me and I am sure others with all that you are doing...and showing it IS or CAN BE possible for others too.

BIG HUGS! Wishing you light and peace in your day...

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Postby TackingIntoTheWind » Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:24 am

(((( shatteredhopes ))))Thanks very much for lifting my spirits! ( Again! :) )
It really helps me that I can have a positive effect on other people, as if I can refine what sometimes feels like the ashes and toxic by-products of my own negative feelings and thoughts into something that can be useful, and ideally, even help other people. :o :wink:
I don't know about you're being glad that I'm posting more though, I have a slightly guilty feeling that my posts purely about myself are more bleak than my contributions to other people's threads. :roll:
Today was rather off-putting at work. PCS, my trade union has called another strike, for 24/03/10. Which to be blunt is probably good tactics, on a purely " hit 'em while they're weak " basis. The current government, our employer, is facing an election within the next few months, ( An election they are widely expected to lose, or at best be reduced to a minority government as a result of. ) Also, a select committee of the House of Commons has recently discussed , in a rather sceptical tone, the problem of low morale in the british civil service. So, there may well never be a better time to drive home the fact of exactly how much this present government have p***ed off so many union members who are working for them! :x :shock: )
And, I have to admit that I've every intention of taking part in the strike again. Every other approach has failed, reason, logic, even appeals to objective reality! :?: They've just rammed what they've wanted to do down our throats, so what else can we do, but quite legally try bring pressure to bear by industrial action? :( :oops: But, it means losing another days pay, and having to deal with a rather strained atmosphere at times in our office. A few of the union members not striking seem particularly opinionated about how " useless " the action is, how " stupid " people are to be " throwing their money away ", we're only helping the government, etc, etc.........
So, the union members supporting the strikes, who don't think that rolling over and simply accepting job cuts, budget cuts, office closures, and more unfavourable working conditions is a smart survival strategy, feel justified in asking quite definitely what the union members who are so opposed to striking propose as an alternative? Particularly, as the union members NOT striking are just as critical of the same issue as the union members who are striking. :?
I just feel so empty and drained sometimes. I seem less able to cope with adverse emotional undercurrents when my depression and anxiety are " biting ". Sometimes, it seems as if the world is bleak and cold and empty, and uncaring, and if the world is treated that way in return, would it really have cause to complain? So many people have worked so hard to try to make things better for the organisation, the staff, the people we're meant to be providing a public service for, but we've been ignored.
Sometimes, I that I and others could have more influence over the world if I ended my life in a particularly public and embarrassing manner for my employers, and the government. Sometimes, I wonder if you can't change the world more by a suicide-note that embarrasses all the right people than years of " sweet reason and logical argument.
But, I have decided that I am not going to do that! :) That is NOT the way that my story is going to end!!!! :!: :wink:
I want to improve and enrich my life and that of others. I want to be a good example, not a cautionary tale! 8)
I'm still jotting story notes, and FULLY EXPECTING to hear how your novel is coming along. ( To paraphrase Descartes: " I think, therefore I nag...! :oops: )
Sorry, this has been a bit bleak, but that's how I've felt today, and it does help to vent, doesn't it?!
( Although, I'll understand if you've reconsidered the wisdom of me posting more about myself :lol: To tell, the truth, I had a strong temptation not to post this, but posting only when I feel cheerful seems rather dishonest and pointless! :oops: :?
Be well (((( All )))), next time I'll try to be " sunnier "! :roll: :roll:

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Postby shatteredhopes » Fri Mar 12, 2010 2:02 pm

Wow ((((((((Tacking)))))))) so surprised to hear you admit that about committing suicide in a way that would force action, as I have had the EXACT SAME THOUGHT about making a suicide mean something. But relieved to hear that you are ruling out that option. As we never know when our lives could give us the opportunity to make a huge difference like Rosa Parks or the person who wrote the letter to the editor that started Amnesty. Plus I envision that if we committed suicide to make a political statement, it would just be dismissed "Oh she was depressed, mentally ill..." and that would ultimately undermine our purpose, right?

Proud of you for standing up for worker's rights and making a difference! While it pinches your pocket your bravery makes an impact for your situation and those other 'scabs' who won't strike who still benefit from the ones who take action...bravo for you!

Sorry to hear the undercurrents affecting the depression/anxiety...happens to me too and the little things have such a dramatic effect on my emotions.

I am debating a bit on my novel as to certain sections whether I want to include them or not, or go a different direction, but at least now I am starting to jot down notes and phrases and thinking more pro-actively about it! So thanks for inspiring me and thanks for asking! I love the Descartes "I think therefore I nag!" (I always say "I hurt therefore I am") You nag me and I'll nag you and we'll keep each other going on our writing, huh? But really, its not nagging, its encouraging and supporting!

So ((((((((((Tacking))))))))))) *hugs* and hope you feel a little more light in your life soon...

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Postby TackingIntoTheWind » Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:03 am

Thanks (((( shatteredhopes )))) for all your kind words and support!!!!
I'm having difficulty seeing the future at the moment, which happens when I'm at a particularly low point with my depression and anxiety. I know that with only a few adjustments and small actions my situation will change, and my feelings of depression and anxiety can be better managed. But, telling myself that doesn't always seem to help as much as hearing it from another human being! :)
I just feel so totally isolated and helpless and vulnerable and alone at the moment. And the thought of having to do the smallest thing, make a 'phone call, buy anything, or even ask someone the time just feels so impossibly difficult and frightening. :cry: :oops:
And myself-esteem is crashing. I keep thinking that if I was more confident, experienced, " successful ", had more money, I wouldn't need so much help, I would be coping better, I'd be less of a failure and " charity case "........moan, gripe, whinge...... :roll:
So, it helps to feel that I am making a difference in encouraging others. If I can do that then it's worth hanging on isn't it? As you say if we all carry on " nagging " each other we'll all get through the times when it feels like we're running scared from moment to moment. :( :wink:
Im glad that you're working on your novel. You never know as you work on your novel, it may take twists and turns that you never imagined, making it even better, and possibly even giving you entirely new ideas for stories.
As you say, we never know where the future may take us, or when days may be just over the horizon...... :wink:

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Postby shatteredhopes » Sat Mar 13, 2010 1:59 pm

(((((((((((((Tacking))))))))))) i know its not the same, but you ARE NOT alone...we are here and we are your friends. So even though you didn't feel like interacting you STILL POSTED, so you did something positive to socialize a bit, right?

You said you are feeling low confidence...I can so relate...last night I got my courage up and searched writing jobs....got totally freaked and felt completely inadequate and talked myself out of pursing...even though I have been published on one subject often and even offered a column in the newspaper (though unpaid) and another did writing professionally for over 10 years...I feel that way too, that I am a complete failure...

But I look at you...your wisdom, intelligence, warmth & compassion (YES ALL ARE VERY VERY TRUE AND I THINK ALL ON THIS FORUM WHO READ YOUR POSTS WOULD COMPLETELY AGREE!)...how far you have come, that you can work a job, which many cannot, you can go out in public (sometimes I can't even manage to leave my house!) and even speak to people at the library for instance most days...that despite severe depressive episodes or emotions, you fight so hard, you have taken suicide off the table for the most part, you have learned so many coping techniques which you have generously shared with others in this forum and are always kind and encouraging to us...you have started jotting down story ideas and taking a risk on something you always thought you might want to do...You have an extremely impressive spirit, the spirit of a true fighter, deep strength, and rich wisdom!

I know too what its like to see no future...but then we just have to get through the moment, the hour, the day...and sometimes, I dare to fantasize or dream about what I might accomplish if I put my mind and efforts to it...sometimes just a little thing to look forward to, as you have so often reminded me...

I am so sorry you are feeling so low, so alone, so vulnerable. Its okay to take some time just for yourself and be by yourself if you are feeling uncomfortable, especially as much as you push yourself out there in the world. Do something just for you! Watch your movies/shows you love, drink a nice cup of tea, or whatever you can to nurture yourself a little.

Wishing you light and peace in your day....

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Postby Mich » Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:46 pm

((((((Tacking))))) I would certainly agree with shatteredhopes re your wisdom, intelligence and caring. Of course, humour is in there too. It takes a lot to put a smile on my face, but I often get a smile from the humour in your posts. You certainly are an inspirational fellow in that you rise up and do so much in the face of your depression. You and shatteredhopes are chock full of talent in the writing department and I am glad it is something that brings the two of you great pleasure. I am sorry you are facing another strike at work but I commend you for standing up for what you believe is right....so few people are willing to do that in life.
Take good care....keep on writing here; I am a devoted reader. Mich.

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Postby TackingIntoTheWind » Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:00 am

Thanks a million for all your kind words (((( shatteredhopes and Mich ))))!!!! If I ever apply for another job, I think I'll print the last two posts and use them as character references! :) :wink:
Seriously though folks, the positive feedback is very welcome indeed.
Still making rather heavy weather of it at the moment, all sorts of little things seem to be making me anxious and depressed, but I'm muddling my way through from one day, hour, sometimes even moment, to the next. I saw a badge once, ( I think our US " cousins " call them " buttons " ? ) for sale in a shop, the badge read: " 95% of everything is turning up. " Which is something I often tell myself, sometimes just " muddling through "is enough, or at least a place to start... :oops: :?
Humphrey Bogart, had little patience for " method actors " who pondered their " motivation ", " dived into the part ", etc, etc, He once said that, as far as he was concerned, there was no " mystique " to acting. To him, acting was about turning up, saying his lines and not tripping over the furniture on stage! 8) And that's pretty much what I'm doing at the moment, just trying to muddle through, and keep my anxiety and depression within bounds, so I don't trip over them too much! :roll:
And even though I've felt more anxious and depressed than I have for a while, it's not as bad as it has been, and I know that I WILL be " climbing the other side of the valley " in the, hopefully not too distant future. :)
I spent Sunday with some friends of mine, they are keen Dungeons and Dragons players, and as one of the players had dropped out of their game, they asked me if I wanted to sit in and take over his character. As one of my depression " triggers " is feeling isolation if I'm at home by myself too much, they thought that it would be good for me to spend the day with them. Which it was. I enjoyed the game, and the company, with just one tiiiiiiny drawback. For whatever reason, Russell, whose character I was taking over, had indulged his sense of humour by creating a rather " novel " character for himself, a swashbucling lesbian pirate! :o :? ( As a male, heterosexual, civil servant, my RPG, Role-Playing-Game, characters are slightly more " conservative " choices as rule! :wink: ) But, apparently I was quite convincing as a pirate according to my friends. ( that's good, right? :? :lol: ) And, one of my friends has lent me some of hiis Doctor Who DVDs, ( The Curse of Peladon, Monster of Peladon with Jon Pertwee as the Doctor, and The Space Museum, The Chase with William Hartnell as the Doctor, if anyone is interested in the full geeky details! :lol: )
So, as low and panicky as I've felt at times, I've managed to find some good times as well. It's reminding me again how much stories in one form or any mean to me and help me to cope. ( In fact, when I leave this library, I'll be jooting some more thoughts in my notebook. If I'm going to be stuck in traffic, at least I can occupy myself pleasantly! 8)
" Fair day, and be well!!!! :wink:

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Postby Mich » Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:41 am

((((((Tacking))))))) It's so great that you were able to have a good time with friends. You "showed up" and a great thing happened...you enjoyed yourself. I hope you can keep breaking free of your isolation like that. It's so good for you.

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Postby TackingIntoTheWind » Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:01 pm

(((( Mich )))) you are sooooo right!
Perhaps because I'm a man, perhaps because I had a very " British " upbringing in which things like feelings of depression/anxiety etc weren't talked about, perhaps because I don't feel so capable of interacting with others when I'm emotionally " low ", perhaps because I don't want to inflict my feelings of depression/anxiety onto others, I do have a tendency towards isolation. Towards " keeping myself to myself ". Which in turn makes my depression and anxiety worse......So, spending more time in the company of people I feel comfortable with is definitely a way of managing my depression/anxiety better.
As my psychiatrist said, I need to engage with the world more. ( He didn't say anything about the world having any say in this. So, I'm engaging with the world whether it likes it or not! :shock: :lol: )

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Postby Mich » Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:23 pm

(((((Tacking)))))) My psychiatrist told me exactly the same thing. I feel many of the same things you do, especially the point about not wanting to spread my depressed and anxious feelings to others. I am glad you are forging ahead and interacting anyway...that shows a real desire to get well.

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Postby lisalou » Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:11 pm

ah,dear dear Tacking... just to let you know you have managed to perform the currently Herculean task of making me smile by burning the image of you as a lesbian swashbuckling pirate forever into my brain...!

many thanks and I wish you some smiles of your own

Lisa xxxxxx

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Postby TackingIntoTheWind » Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:00 pm

Thanks (((( Lisalou & Mich )))) Good to hear from you again (((( Lisalou ))))! Glad I could make you smile! :D
( Although, I still haven't entirely recovered from a rather mindboggling conversation that took place in the course of the Dungeons and Dragons game, as my three friends tried to remember whether Russell had ever specified how " endowed ", in the mammary sense, :oops: my character actually was?! :oops: :? )
Fair day and be well, (((( All ))))! :)


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